What would you do?????

[Mangler]

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I have no idea what to do. Four months into a collapse would put me deep into the hard cold winter of Wisconsin.

With that in mind I think my first reaction would be to load up the bug out vehicle and move out. Then double back with whatever force I could muster, which most likely would be about four to six adult males with hunting experience and deer rifles.

I would hope we could harass the attacking force enough to draw them away and prevent them from getting near our homes. I would expect my knowledge of the area would be far greater than members of a "gang from the city", so I could use that to my advantage. But I also suspect gang members may have more fighting skills.

One advantage would be knowing the location of boat landings on the lake and the fact that come January the lakes up here are frozen hard enough to drive on. Also I would know the ATV/snowmobile routes through and around the city, which also can be driven on.

If, by some chance, I were to gain the advantage over this attacking force I would kill every last one of them. Because you don't let predators get away to attack another day; not with fox, coyote, or wolves, and certainly not with people. I know that's pretty bold talk for a sheep, but it is how I feel.

[myakka]

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Mangler,
your reply is similar to the way I was thinking. I don't have the resources for a direct conflict. But I have options. I think I can spike the obvious water tank, then fade to the woods. Then my 4 or 5 can return and engage the ones still well enough to fight. And we can do it on our terms.

[Morgan101]

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Mangler: I am in the same situation as you. My initial thoughts would be to hunker down, and prepare the house for defense. I don't have a group, or a place to bug out, certainly, not one that would survive a cold, harsh winter. I do not have military or law enforcement training, so if those of you who do could be a little patient, and explain or spell out some of the acronyms it would be helpful. I really do want to learn.

Maybe you could offer suggestions on how to survive this mess in a more suburban environment. I for one would appreciate all the help.

[dalewick]

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As promised, here's my answer.
I will consider any scenario like or similar to this the same as being at war. While I did say they were a neighboring group, I never stated they were allies or anything more than people we know. There is always the possibility that someone you know might betray you for some reason and with the information at hand you don't know the distress call was specifically for you. I will not expend my resources to check out there situation. Sending people to there area could alert an enemy that was unaware of your presence, that you exist. My area has natural choke points which only allows motor vehicles access to my area from 2 directions. These would be signed warning everyone to stay away.
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Anyone entering uninvited will be considered unwelcomed. We will have mechanized(explosive) ambush sites set on any ingress points. They can only be detonated by sniper ignition boards, set up for easy shots. Anyone surviving the initial ambush will be cleaned up on the walk through. Typical site includes a front and back fu-gas element and a middle element of 20 daisy chained claymores all initated on 3 switches (front, back, middle). 3 shots to set off the entire ambush.
I know this will sound harsh to some but that will be the world we live in. Only RICHFL group or anyone outfitted simillary can afford to be otherwise (tanks are great equalizers. LOL). Given opportunity, your enemy will kill you and then what about your family. Street gangs are the most dangerous element currently in our society and after SHTF they will be far more dangerous. How you respond to them may save your life.

Dale

[RICHFL]

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I was raised in Wisconsin and have a farm site in Western MINN. If all you have is hunting rifles (Bolt action) then you need to pick your fights because anyone with an AK or Ar is going to put metal down range at you unless you are shooting outside their range. That is your one advantage is hit and hit again from long range. Wear them down. They will move on if enough damage is done to them. Don't forget their tires so they have to walk!.

[ZAGran]

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Do the best we can

[wac220]

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Mangler,
your reply is similar to the way I was thinking. I don't have the resources for a direct conflict. But I have options. I think I can spike the obvious water tank, then fade to the woods. Then my 4 or 5 can return and engage the ones still well enough to fight. And we can do it on our terms.

I would not have thought of the water. I will stick that in the back of my mind for if, but hopefully never.

Will

[Mortblanc]

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With all this poisoning of the water, fading away and circling back I am supposing that you do not have families involved.

Or are you using them as bait?

[myakka]

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I know it is hard to play this "what if" game, and can come off corney, but I would think step 1 would be to evac those not able to contribute. And as to the water, I have thought a lot about that, and about other things that I wouldn't want to admit to publicly. So let me just say that that is one of the things I would do to make my home in-hospitable.

And as to being able to "fade away" that at least is something I have a certain confidence in (at least for myself.)
Anyone who wants to come "train" in Florida can test me in the swamp sometime.

[jezcruzen]

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Now that is an interesting scenario.

Lets see. "Reports are". Are the reports vetted in some way? Where and how were they received? Who reported it? OK. Still, under the circumstances I would have to err on the side of caution and consider the reports as having some validity.

My group? Well... I don't have a group. At least not currently. There probably are 100 people in my little "community". Honestly, I don't have a clue who aligns with my thoughts and opinions. A few of them talk some sh*t, but I'm not impressed. Most can't even agree on how to best maintain our two private roads. The majority, I'm sure, haven't given a thought to prepping. So. let me proceed from that.

I would be prepared to un-ass this location. I can do it at the drop of a hat. I do not have the resources to hold off 20-30 raiders, and I will not sacrifice any of my family or myself in some misguided attempt to do so. I believe in dispersal. In other words, I don't keep all my eggs in one basket. If I loose the house temporarily, I won't loose everything.

Once we evacuate, we have firing positions outside that would give us the option of killing a few intruders, then disengaging to safety. That in itself might (emphasis on might) give the raider pause to pass me by and seek less dangerous targets.

We would also have the option of moving in, killing one or two, and moving back out.

It would not be my intention of becoming trapped in my house, nor would there be some Charge of the Light Brigade. I know when to fold 'em. But I feel certain that I can bloody the opponent while doing so.