Thread: American Obituary
07-27-2012, 11:44 AM #1
I didn't want to steal from Dalewick's thread on the last election, but this fits in with the current state of events. Some interesting facts:
In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the
University of Edinborough , had this to say about the fall of the
Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up
until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves
generous gifts from the public treasury. >>From that moment on, the
majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits
from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will
finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed
by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200
years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:
Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St.
Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the
last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain
won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the
Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already
having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to
the USA in fewer than five years.
If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.
If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how
much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our
This is truly scary! Of course we are not a democracy, we are a
Constitutional Republic . Someone should point this out to Obama. Of
course we know he and too many others pay little attention to The
Constitution. There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012.
If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary.
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07-27-2012, 11:58 AM #2
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I agree with almost the entire post, except that I feel we are in the apathy stage tetering on dependancy, we left complaceny behind a while back.
What is unwritten above, is, that as the country 'as a whole' is in each of these stages there is always a select few who are out of phase.
These are those who are malcontents in times of plenty, and self-reliant in times of dependancy.
But not all of these are working to a noble end. In any given condition in your cycle there are a small group of folks working to either restore us to a previous point on the circle or advance us to a spot further in the chain.
The Big O wants us in dependancy. We want liberty.
I like this thread because it makes it clear and understandable what is happening over the course of hundreds of years."The constitution does not guarantee our safety, only our liberty!" Robert Steed before congress 3/2013
07-27-2012, 12:33 PM #3
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Good post I`m glad we live in a republic"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." Plato
That Government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.
— Thomas Jefferson
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
— Abraham Lincoln
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07-27-2012, 01:56 PM #4
07-27-2012, 03:07 PM #5
Great thread! Don't ever worry about stealing from me, Knowledge makes for a prepared mind and a prepared mind is a survivor.
DaleWhy tip toe through life only to arrive safely at death!
If not us, Who. If not now, When.
07-27-2012, 03:59 PM #6
Great post, thanks for sharing!Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.
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07-28-2012, 02:18 AM #8
Great post, I have read it before and still believe it. one error though is congress did not vote the illegals legal, Obama Executive ordered it.CITIZEN by BIRTH
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