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    There is "hunting" and then there is "hunting".

    TEOTWAWKI hordes of people will NOT be roaming the woods. The majority of the population will be dead after only a few weeks. The swarm of urbanites roaming the woods senerio is completely baseless. The urbanites will sit waiting for the government to come save them until it is too late and the diseases have settled in. Colera, diptheria and whatever else raw sewage in the water causes will do the job.

    "Hunting" will be what you do as you go about your daily tasks. Working the garden, pop the bunny raiding the carrots with your .22. Catch a varmit in your chicken house, cook him for supper tomorrow night. Walking to see a neighbor, carry the shotgun in case you "see something for supper" as well as it being a defense tool.

    I also live in a rural area and the everage person would be amazed at the game available. Speeding along on the way to the supermarket in your SUV is an excellent way to miss seeing everything one could eat.

    And you will not see it while hiding in a hole in the ground eating stale out of date MREs.

    Who told anyone that shooting over bait, food plots or shooting from a stand was not hunting? It is the same as shooting over a corn field or cultivating a woodlot for deer cover. In many states it is even legal hunting now, befoe everything has gone haywire!

    TEOTWAWKI there will be a pile of corn at a measured 50 yards from my back door and a shooting bench at the kitchen window!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortblanc View Post
    TEOTWAWKI there will be a pile of corn at a measured 50 yards from my back door and a shooting bench at the kitchen window!
    I can not agree more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortblanc View Post
    TEOTWAWKI there will be a pile of corn at a measured 50 yards from my back door and a shooting bench at the kitchen window!
    I was thinking more like 200 yards. The gut piles can draw flies. On second thought right near the garden so you can work it into the ground easier.

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    I always thought baiting was just one more way to hunt. I assume you mean actively looking for prey far from home. Eventually ( probably sooner than you think ) all the game in your immediate area will be gone. If you want wild meat you will have to go and get it. It would be wise to be able to harvest game in as many ways as possible.
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    Every fall I'm about one shot away with my .308 Remington rifle to fill my freezer. I still have ammo from 1998.

    If you're not such a good shot and tend to fire off enough rounds to alert every animal within a few miles in your quest for a meal ... Practice, Practice, Practice.

    I also hunt with a 180# cross-bow. Silent and deadly.

    Practice.

    Being the carnivore I am, I prefer the hunt.

    Setting up snares is fun for about a minute in real life. When's the last time you ate something you snared?

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    A lot of farmers get their main supply of meat for the winter by deer hunting. They will set aside a small lot and prepare the area to feed these meat sources. That includes a salt lick that they need for the minerals. Then when hunting season is here they will harvest as much as they are allowed by law. We have gotten our tags filled for 4 of the last 6 years.

    The state does care about the deer population and by our hunting allows for deer to survive the winter instead of dieing in the deep snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wac220 View Post
    I was thinking more like 200 yards. The gut piles can draw flies. On second thought right near the garden so you can work it into the ground easier.
    In that situation there would be no gut pile to worry over. You would be cooking organs we now throw away, saving intestines for sausage casings and the dogs gotta eat something. Us modern folk throw away as much as we eat, in the old days that did not happen. They even saved the blood and cooked in it or made pudding from it.

    My grandparents always talked about eating everything in the hog but the squeel. Chicken was even cooked with the feet attached and the head included. They would fuss over who got the chicken brains and take turns.

    I popped a racoon in the chicken house tonight. It was a young one and I would have eaten it if the weather were a little cooler. In this 100+ heat they are full of fleas and ticks and fly ridden before they hit the ground. By the time I walked across the yard this one already had flies swarming.

    Young racoon in the dutch oven with onions, taters, carrots, a few carlic cloves and celery is good eating, as well as being 3 pounds of meat I did not pay $3.99 a pound for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortblanc View Post
    Young racoon in the dutch oven with onions, taters, carrots, a few carlic cloves and celery is good eating, as well as being 3 pounds of meat I did not pay $3.99 a pound for.
    I didn't know that. I live trapped one Monday, and I still have one getting into my garage. So, maybe it's time to try your recipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coyotee View Post
    Setting up snares is fun for about a minute in real life. When's the last time you ate something you snared?
    Not that long ago. Have you never eaten beaver, muskrat, bobcat, lynx, raccoon or mtn. lion. Beaver is best if you like beef. Muskrat taste like rabbit. Bobcat and lynx taste like veal as well as mtn. lion. But, there's nothing I can't catch with a snare including wild turkey, grouse, deer and bear. Even accidentally caught a couple sheep and a cow once. (released alive and unharmed) and that snare is on that spot working 24/7 when I can't be there. Never doubt the ability of traps and snares to feed you.

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    Fishing, I plan on doing a lot of fishing. Some hunting and a little trapping too.

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