Obtaining medical supplies

**Applejack** · 07-08-2012, 01:15 PM

I am trained in the medical field and it is true, if you have never inserted an IV, I recomend do not start now unless you have the know how. If there is an air bubble in the line you will do more harm than good. If an airbubble get's into the vain you have real problems. I suggest you learn how to give these and practice what you are doing first, before you have to do it on a person. I really hope though it never comes to this, that we will have to go that far.
AJ

**RICHFL** · 07-08-2012, 05:10 PM

Instead of trying to establish a mini clinic you need to review of what type of injuries/diseases you will encounter in the new world.

Injuries will include burns, cuts, abrasions, fractures, stomach problems, and gunshot wounds. These you can handle on a day to day situation.

Diseases: All water borne diseases including Cholera, Diphtheria, Dysentery among so many others, But the ones we thought were gone, due to vaccines including Small Pox.

**RICHFL** · 07-08-2012, 05:16 PM

PS: The injuries will happen because people are not use to using a camp fire to cook, gathering wood for the fire, eating undercooked food/spoiled food, and the security problems of guns.

The diseases I mentioned involved bad water. Once someone has one of these diseases they will be dying with nothing you can do for them in the new world. So you must insist upon everyone being trained in proper water treatment. In most modern disaster areas these diseases are the ones that medical personnel fear the most. A single source of bad water can kill thousands of people. Look at Hatti 2 years ago with the earth quack for more information.

**Illini Warrior** · 07-11-2012, 03:46 PM

my opinion is that having supplies is key .... most importantly includes med supplies .... trained medical personnel aren't totally going to disappear in a SHTF situation .... but I'll guarantee supplies will go fast ....

for the basics, at reasonable prices and great customer service .... www.shopmedvet.com

**Kevinsmith01** · 08-17-2012, 08:13 AM

You can do all and find all once you try to get them. Have you consulted with any medical supply company. I think it will be good place for you to get equipment of your medical needs.

**Morgan101** · 08-17-2012, 04:17 PM

In another post RichFl made a very good point about having the proper supplies for an emergency, and I think it could apply here.

Even if you don't know how to do a procedure maybe someone else in the group will. Maybe it is a neighbor. Maybe it is a medical center or MASH type of site. If you have the proper supplies you can give them to someone who knows how to use them properly. Getting advanced training, and knowing what to do is best, but having the supplies is half the battle won.

**survivalguy** · 08-17-2012, 04:40 PM

Working on an Advanced life support ALS ambulance for six years i've seen alot my only suggestion to you is get the training ..here in Pennsylvania the only folks outside of a hospital that can start a line is a paramedic and getting that training is quite expensive about 3500 bucks and a ton of hours. Also you must be an EMT for a year before applying for medic school.

I think the easy part of what you want to do is obtaining the supplies but the training is another story.

Best to you.

**Kevinsmith01** · 08-25-2012, 02:59 AM

Supplying for any kind of equipment is really great because it is a service done for peoples. In case of medical equipments or medicine supply, It can save various life by giving them proper treatment in time and also avail health existing.

**bambam55** · 11-01-2012, 09:02 PM

I have a friend that works for a company that just added a medical tech school, they're always getting alkinds of med stuff donated and what they don't use they throw out luckily my friends near where they throw the stuff ou tand picks up stuff for me to pack away I already have a good stash things like you'd find in a military med bag

**dalewick** · 11-04-2012, 10:40 PM

I think in the beginning of this thread the question was asked what was needed for an advanced FAK (to include dealing with gunshots. Well this is whats listed in the Survival and Austere Medicine handbook:

Bandages and Dressings
Combat Dressings
Large gauze dressings
Small gauze squares
Roller Bandages elastic + cotton (2in/4in/6in)
Triangular Bandages
Bandaids -assorted sizes and shapes (i.e. finger tips)
Sleek Tape 1 in. (waterproof, plastic/elasticised tape)
Cotton buds (Q-tips, cotton tips)
Personal protection / Antisepsis:
Chlorhexidine (Hibiclens) or Povidone-iodine (Disinfectant)
Antibacterial Soap
Gloves
Saline solution – for irrigation
Medication:
Lignocaine 1% (Lidocaine) (local anaesthetic)
Augmentin (broad spectrum antibiotic)
Acetaminophen (Tylenol) (mild analgesic)
Diclophenac (Voltaren) (mod analgesic/antiinflammatory)
Oral Rehydration powder
Loperamide (Imodium) (antidiarrhoeal)
Benadryl &/or Claritin (antihistamines, short + long acting)
Adrenaline auto injector (Epicene) (USA = epinephrine)
Morphine Sulphate (strong pain killer) if available
Gamma Benzene Hexachloride (lice/scabies treatment)
Co-timoxazole (antifungal)
Contraceptive pills/Condoms
Instruments:
Clothing shears
Surgical scissors )
Needle holder ) Enough to do basic minor
Sm curved clamps ) surgery - suturing, draining
Tissue forceps ) abscesses, cleaning a wound,
Scalpel blades ) etc.
Other:
Thermometer (rectal or pacifier for children)
Emergency Obstetric Kit (includes bulb suction)
Vicryl 2-0 suture material
(Your choice of suture material is up to you – and is covered in detail elsewhere in this book.
Vicryl is a synthetic dissolvable one, but takes up to 4-6 weeks to dissolve, so I think it is the
ideal survival thread)
5 mL syringes
20 gauge needles
Dental:
Oil of cloves (tooth ache)
Emergency dental kit (commercial preparation)

It's a really good book and can be found for free on the internet.

Dale

* It also list what is needed for a full medical/surgical kit as well as procedures and diagnoses.