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    You know, originally, I was thinking our energy should be put towards getting him voted out, not trying to backdoor discredit him. So I haven't been active on this thread. However, the folks defending Big O have actually made it worse to me, and I want to voice an opinion.
    The standard line about Big O's own words claiming to be from Kenya in order to secure the position are that this was a "self serving act" (boris) In other words a lie, falsehood, fraud.

    It is no defense to me to admit that he was committing FRAUD, and falsefied documents.
    I hope this is brought out. Either he was lie-ing then, or he lied when he claimed to be from Hawaii. He either created fraudulent papers when he wrote that he was from Kenya, or when he produced this "birth certificate" for Hawaii.

    I have voted for a local county commisioner who is the polar opposite from me politically. He is a way left liberal. But he is an honest man. His ethical heart, and truthful demeaner means that even when I disagree with him, I can have a discussion with him and know that what he is saying is what he actually believes. This is someone I can work with. He also believes that he is there to represent his district, so he will vote the will of the people.

    The defense to Big O's own claim to be from Kenya is that he is a liar and a fraud. That doesn't make me feel any better thanks!
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    For over 2 years there has been over 15 court cases about him meeting the requirements of the US Constitution. We (Tea Party) have not idea of how much money (MILLIONS) has been spent by Mr. Obama to defend his birth information. All I know is every time this idea is raised every one starts yelling racism. It has nothing to do with racism. What it has to do is; does he meeting the requirements set down in the US Constitution.

    Here is some facts.

    Our fore-fathers were worried that a future president might be a dual citizen meaning that they were a citizen of two different nations. They worried about this future president having more then one nations loyalty, devotion, and interest, while serving in the office. That is why they put that phrase about a natural born citizen vice just calling them a citizen. They wanted to be sure that the President has no other involvement other than the USA. This was a real concern since at that time KINGS ruled Europe and held loyalty to themselves.

    No where else is that phrase used in the US Constitution.

    No where else in the requirements of holding a political office is the term natural born citizen used. Not even the Vice President's office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHFL View Post
    No where else in the requirements of holding a political office is the term natural born citizen used. Not even the Vice President's office.
    Although it does say that the VP MUST be eligible to be President. That's why neither Bill Clinton nor George Bush could be VP.
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    "...either Bill Clinton nor George Bush could be VP..." That would give me nightmares!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHFL View Post
    "...either Bill Clinton nor George Bush could be VP..." That would give me nightmares!!!!!!
    How about Bill Clinton as First Lady?
    "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyowl's Wife View Post
    How about Bill Clinton as First Lady?
    Is he going to wear the blue dress? LOL
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    Saying to you, "Fear not, I will help you."

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    Better yet him and VP and Her as Pres.

    Now who wears the pants in that family? Or do they change pants at nite????????



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    I always thought she was the brains of the outfit.

    Note to remember: She's as Marxist as BO.
    "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

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    Aren't most of us women? TEE HEE

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