Thread: Economical B.O.V
09-03-2011, 07:47 PM #1
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Much in the same way that american Automakers Downsized in the year before the cherokee was one the those vehicales in 1984.
In the years before the Cherokee nameplate was attched to to a much sporter 2 door version of Jeep's Grand Waggoneer.
In 1984 the Cherokee Only shared its name with its predocesser, It had a shorter wheel Base of 7 inches shorter Than the "old" model with a wheel base of 101.4 inches and a length of 165.3 which was about 21 inches Combined with a Lighter weight of 3100 pounds which helped improved fuel milege and helped it move around alot better on or off road. Two or four door model were selectable (Both of which are the same size)
The Vehical was listed to seat five people (4 Is all I would personaly try to fit)
Trim levels For the Cherokee were Base,Pioneer,and Cheif
The power plants in the mid 80's models were the 2.5 liter four cyl and the 2.8 v6
Many have conserded jeep to be the 4wd vehicals out there the Cherokee came with 2 4wd systems One of which was Command -trac (part time) and select-trac (full time) A "Quadra-Link" Front end was used (coil over solid axle)
In 85 the laredo trim was Added to the line up.
More power was offerd in 87' when the inline 6 dubed the power tech 6 with a 177 hp it would throw the cherokee from 0 to 60 in 9 seconds! It could also tow 5000 pounds.
In 89' the 15 gal fuel tank was swaped with 20 gal tank
In 1990 safty was inproved a bit with tree point safity harnees
In 1991 the inline now produced 190 hp which now propeld it 0-6 in under 9 secs.
In 94 side impacted beams were added and the ac no longer used
This is the new body style with more rounded edges and such.
The inter change also with a much more egonmical fell and style
In 2000 the cHerokee got a more refined version the inline 6 (no met emmison standerds.
2001 the last year of the Cherokee with out fanfare it buried the 4 cyl and child seat teathers were added.
Remember only in a Jeep!
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09-07-2011, 03:07 PM #2
Here would be a awesome option for a BOV. The downside to all Jeeps of this size is, computers, fuel injection, electronic ignition. The computers are dead in the event of a EMP, Jeep won't run. Fuel injection pump located in gas tank, if it dies, Jeep won't run. Electronic ignition may be okay with EMP,but too many sensors required to run. I love the size and durability of the mid size Jeeps, especially with the bulletproof 4.0 motor. Since the 4.0 is a 232 cubic inch motor, designed by AMC, take off all the aforementioned items, and go back with a Carburetor, points, and mechanical fuel pump. This will probably start a argument, but all of these can be repaired or bypassed in a event of an emergency. I've had to gravity feed carbs before, hook dc power straight to the coil before, you name it, it can be done with the older engines. No too easy with all these modern engines, post 1980-87, depending on your favorite brand. We have 3 Cherokees now, two with the 4.0 and automatic, one with the 2.5 and manual tranny. I'd love to convert one of the 4.0's to all the above mentioned items, and I'd consider it my BOV!
09-07-2011, 03:55 PM #3
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good stuff!WHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?
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09-08-2011, 04:16 AM #4
good stuff but to argue with David M. A) the 4.0 is hardly pulletproof a well placed 5.56 or 7.62 Nato rounds will easily disable that engine (i know from personal and professional experience) B) in the event of an EMP all gasoline engines will effectively be OOC the remedy for this is simple resort to diesel engines, with manual trans, and mechanical fuel pumpSic Vis Pacem Para Bellum
09-08-2011, 07:30 AM #5
I used the term "bulletproof" loosely. I was referring to its longevity. Those little engines are tough as nails as long as you keep them oiled and don't run them hot....
Of course that goes for any engine. I don't know how a EMP could effect the older engines other than the battery. Maybe you could enlighten? If that's the case, the diesel would be down as well. Most modern diesels are computer controlled. You'd need to go back several years to find a diesel that wasn't. What's you're opinion as to a good diesel canidate? My problem with the diesel is not the engine, it's todays ultra low sulfur fuel that the gov't wants us to run. It's killing the old diesel injector pumps because it has no lubricating properties....We've got diesel tractors, and a old backhoe, and I put additive in the fuel to keep the injector pump lubed. So, have you found a solution for that? High Sulfur diesel is all but obsolete, I've asked my local fuel distributor for it, and they can order it, but I'd have to buy a truckload!
The older diesels were designed for High Sulfur, the newer diesels are computer controlled, so where do we stand now? The ball is back in your court.
09-09-2011, 06:02 PM #6
I would have to agree with David in his assessment of the jeep platform as a BOV... especially with the mods mentioned. The 4.0 is a very dependable torque monster I-6.... Plus you can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting one, so spare parts are easily available.
Toss a Ford 8.8 rear end in it with a locker and it'll go anywhere.The 12ga.... It's not just for rabbits anymore.