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  1. #21
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    Not bad. The OP needs to enlarge that photo as much as possible and do an inventory of the items and pick and choose the items of needs. Im amused however by the amount of water included. At most..it would appear to be about a quart or half gallon at best. If one lives in an area where water is abundant..it might..might be enough. I live in California..and a half gallon a day per person may not be enough, depending on time of year. No where near enough in the summer time. Its been 106 for the past week...shrug

    Its a nice idea that pack listed above..but..the feminine napkins do make good wound dressings....
    Gunner

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnerAsch View Post
    Not bad. The OP needs to enlarge that photo as much as possible and do an inventory of the items and pick and choose the items of needs. Im amused however by the amount of water included. At most..it would appear to be about a quart or half gallon at best. If one lives in an area where water is abundant..it might..might be enough. I live in California..and a half gallon a day per person may not be enough, depending on time of year. No where near enough in the summer time. Its been 106 for the past week...shrug

    Its a nice idea that pack listed above..but..the feminine napkins do make good wound dressings....
    Gunner
    i'm thinking of getting it and changing some things around. the site has a full inventory, and some of the items are kindof goofy.
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    While Im "not an expert" either..I have carried GOD bags (Get out of Dodge) for over 30 yrs and the requirements are:
    1. Water
    2. Food
    3. Shelter
    4. Other Stuff (medical, spare ammo, radio<am/fm)..the usual

    One can "den up" in a building, car, natural cover..but one NEEDS water and food first of all..USUALLY...
    Which is why I stated one needs to look at climate, time of year, etc etc. The order of things may very well change depending on time of year. If you are bugging out/going home in Febuary..and there is 4 feet of snow on the ground and its -40F...or its August and its 73F..with 35% humidity and you have paved streets between your points...
    Some of us out here take this very very seriously. Shrug. Its moderately easy to survive for 72 hours...IF you think it through..and the details are the killers. Which is why I asked about your partner...one small bag..two people may work fine with August and 73F...but both will die in the Febuary sceanario....

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    I alwayse like to keep a small monocular with me it doesent weigh anything but helps me see if their are any obsticles in my way (I hate backtracking) the case mine came in is taped to the sholder strap of my pack so its not a hassle to dig out when i need it attached to it is also a small photon light from wally worls small but bright
    NONSOLIS RADIOS SEDIOUIS FULMINA MITTO

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnerAsch View Post
    While Im "not an expert" either..I have carried GOD bags (Get out of Dodge) for over 30 yrs and the requirements are:
    1. Water
    2. Food
    3. Shelter
    4. Other Stuff (medical, spare ammo, radio<am/fm)..the usual

    One can "den up" in a building, car, natural cover..but one NEEDS water and food first of all..USUALLY...
    Which is why I stated one needs to look at climate, time of year, etc etc. The order of things may very well change depending on time of year. If you are bugging out/going home in Febuary..and there is 4 feet of snow on the ground and its -40F...or its August and its 73F..with 35% humidity and you have paved streets between your points...
    Some of us out here take this very very seriously. Shrug. Its moderately easy to survive for 72 hours...IF you think it through..and the details are the killers. Which is why I asked about your partner...one small bag..two people may work fine with August and 73F...but both will die in the Febuary sceanario....
    Agreed.

    Luckily, we don't get past freezing but two or three times a year.
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    Well I got the pack in the mail yesterday. It is way smaller than I thought.

    Ya'll are right. I was asking too much from it.

    I'm going to dig out an old hiking frame back for this kit.
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    I've decided to atleast make a two person ONE day bag out of it. Not sure where I'll use it, but hell it can't hurt.



    Here is my current list:

    12 water pouches
    2 .mil issue MREs (not shown)
    1 brick of DATREX (18 food bars)
    1 Trekker skinning knife (not shown)
    6 spring loaded speedhook fishing kits (in case short term becomes long term)
    1 4sevens AA flashlight
    1 deck of knot tying playing cards
    1 deck of edible plant cards for the E-US
    1 cold steel pocket bushman
    2 AR magazine MOLLE (5.11 brand) pouches
    1 HSGI addon MOLLE pouch (empty right now)
    1 gerber artifact
    1 roll of gauze
    1 ammonia inhalant
    1 bottle of extra strength OTC pain killers
    200 ft of para cord
    1 tent tiedown (no tent yet, lol)
    1 compass
    1 firesteel


    Now first off, things like the firesteel, edible plant cards, and the fishing gear are longer term pieces, but I tossed them in because they weigh very little and don't take up much room. They may come out as the kit evolves.
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    When i was in the Army one of the teams i was on , we had two big ole Camo communication shelters. the team was required have individual BOB. we used the 3-day pack that were on our Web gear. inside we had atleast 1 MRE, 50ft of 550 Cord , role of 100MPH tape. 2 spare Mags or half a belt of linked ammo for gunners, 1 pr socks, wet wipe, foot powder, camo paint, Knife, Matches, Chem lights,map/compass,small flashlight. Rolled and tied to bottom side 1woobie inside poncho. In cold weather i had a set of gloves and liners and extra poly pro top.. we took the standard army issue wet weather bag cut in half to keep everything dry. We had set rally point set from our site and time line to follow with new points.

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    Get two cheap rain ponchos from the camping department at Wal-Mart. You can use them to stay dry or collect rainwater. You can also throw them on damp ground to lay down on. They are lightweight, fold up flat and are cheap to buy. I don't recommend the happy bright colors.... Also, grab a handful of peppermint candies they give away at the checkout station at you local diner. Put 'em in a plastic ziplock baggie and carry them in your bug out bag....
    Last edited by preppie; 09-11-2011 at 09:10 AM.

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    You're in kinda a bind since you want 2 people/ one bag. Even if you make a second bag, what you wrote lends me to believe that when/if things get hairy, you can only count on a single bag; that means (by definition) duplication of supplies, since what's good for one bag would be good for two, if you cannot be sure you can get both bags. Best thing is to come up with some way that it would be almost a sure thing that you would have access to both bags. No magic potion here. If you keep the bags in vehicles, you can also keep other prelim stuff in the vehicle such as suitable clothes, footwear, jackets, underwear as well as a few meals (eat hearty before you bug out). In the bags you should have food for 5 days, at least 3 quarts of water per person, first aid kit, socks, medicine for 2 weeks, water purification, small folding shovel (they can be quite small and light), waterproof flashlight with fresh batteries, good folding knife, multitool, appropriate bedding, rain gear, hand guns with nylon holsters (mid bore such as .38,.357 or both .22 revolvers), fire starting kit, folding money in small denominations, clear and clean credit cards from 2 different banks, maps, compass, eating utinsils, cooking pot, small solar powered radio with battery backup, signal devices, and plastic shelter halves.
    Take a long look at your packs; cheap does not usually mean best; an aluminum frame will help carry more. Weather resistance is a must. Try it for comfort for a number of hours on a hike.
    The time to read instructions and become familiar with your equipment is not when you are on the move.
    Think about this: if you cheap out on survival supplies, it may just kill you. Your choice.
    Something else: if you're planning on walking out, you could probably use bicycles or motorbikes; if necessary, you could always abandon them if they become impracticle.

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