AR-15 Optics

**rancher** · 05-03-2009, 07:53 PM

There are some companies which make .50 uppers so all you do is unpin your .223 upper and pin on the .50. Ready aim fire!!!

**PalmettoNative** · 05-08-2009, 06:11 PM

I have both the EOTech and 4 power ACOG. It took some practice, but i can now use the ACOG with both eyes open for quick target acquisition in close to mid-range. But if you had to choose in self-defense terms... choose EOTech that uses AA batteries.

**PalmettoNative** · 05-08-2009, 06:14 PM

I too second the notion of back up iron sights.

**rancher** · 05-09-2009, 12:01 PM

All optics should be mounted high enough to still use the sighted in irons below.... enough said.

**Oscar Wilde** · 05-09-2009, 04:54 PM

I'm good to 250 yards with my EO Tech 512....my flip up rear sight stays in the up position in case of failure.... the EOTech is a see through whether its on or off....designed for reflex shooting. The flip ups are fairly costly but don't skimp and get one of the cheaper ones....they won't hold a zero. There is magnification for the EOTech but yuo'll need a rail system....more $$$$$
You'll find that your rifle is relatively inexpensive platform with which to mount lots of expensive accessories....$800.00 AR + $6000.00 worth of lights and sights.

O.W.

**Granddad** · 05-15-2009, 07:53 PM

Like most of the other folks, I would go with the EoTech 512, for the
money.

With your budget, you can also get a pretty good folding rear sight
that will co-witness.

This is what I have on my M-4orgery; a 512, with a Yankee Hill
Machines folding rear sight/ with the two apetures.

For a 16" carbine, I find this setup ideal

**Mags** · 05-31-2009, 05:38 PM

Awesome, here's the end of the road! http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetac...ail.bok?no=149 or http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetac...ail.bok?no=226 Fuck all that other noise. EOTech's fine, Aimpoints are the heat!

I hear ya Rancher and that's fine for scoped huntin' type rifles. I agree, but for fighting weapons working from medium to CQB ranges that's a no go. If my ACOG was mounted high enough that I could use my BUIS under it I'd have to index my sight 18,000 feet above haji's head just to face shoot that motherfucker. It took long enough to learn my small offset at bad breath range.

Regardless of whether you have a big money optic or a cheapo, magnified or not, you should (must) be running BUIS's. Mounted and zero'd of course, not doing so is bad juju.

Mine is mounted on the rail right behind my ACOG. It's the pop-up type. It will not fully deploy with the ACOG in place. The ACOG is mounted useing a LaRue Tactical quick release mount. If the ACOG goes down, (How I have no idea.) I flick two levers, dump the ACOG, deploy the BUIS and keep the fight going forward!

(Weapon modified since picture was taken, but the sights are the same.)

**rancher** · 06-01-2009, 09:24 AM

I see your points... However I did fail to mention that we run all "carry handles" thus the iron sights work just fine on the correctly designed mounting system. I use some QD units for a couple NV equipped units so they can go to daylight use.... if needed.

Because we are set up as a secured retreat location we are not trying to pack a weapon with every option on it. Rather have weapons choices outfitted for all different ranges and applications. Just another way to get the job down by having the correct tools on hand.

Noticed you still ran the anti barrel fouling (mud and stuff) bird cage on your weapon. We run all vortex flash suppressors which take out 95% of visible flash. In a real tight situation we have some "tap" ammo mags ready to go...thus no visual signatures at all.... Then one can always screw on the can and change the noise level and signature of the AR-15, plus no flash at night or in the dark.

Nice camo job. Up here in the N.W we would go with darker greens and browns. We also have cloth snow tape to make the weapon go away when we darn our snow camos. Good way to test camo is take it hunting or call in coyotes with it...

**OneBadPig** · 06-01-2009, 12:23 PM

Congrats Awsome on the Stag. I really want a Stag upper since i shoot lefty and they make a true left handed upper.( i said shoot lefty....not shoot LEFTIES!!!)
Mr.Mags,just to make sure i understand, did you say you like Aimpoint?

If i ever get these AR projects going i will use fold down front and rear sights.
YHM seems to be the best $ for $, IMHO.
I like zero or low magnification on an AR optic to keep a wide field of view. Quick detach mounts are mandatory. Remember what the wise man said, "if it uses batteries or lipstick its gonna give you trouble"