About to get REAL NASTY in Cali

**Diesel** · 02-10-2009, 10:05 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/10/...ons/index.html

California may have to cut prison population by 40 percent

* Story Highlights
* Overcrowding has created unconstitutional conditions, judges conclude
* Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger immediately promised to appeal the case
* Those who would be released would be very low risk, says head of Prison Law Office

(CNN) -- Federal judges tentatively ruled on Monday that California must reduce the number of inmates in its overcrowded prison system by up to 40 percent to stop a constitutional violation of prisoners' rights.

"Overcrowding is the primary cause of the unconstitutional conditions that have been found to exist in the California prisons," the court concluded.

California state officials, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, immediately promised to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court, if necessary.

"The governor and I strongly disagree with this ruling," said Matthew Cate, California's corrections and rehabilitation secretary. Implementing the court's ruling would result in up to 58,000 prisoners being released, Cate said, describing it as a threat to public safety.

He disputed the court's contention that the prisons are unsafe the way they are now.

But in 2006, Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency because of "severe overcrowding" in California's prisons, saying it had caused "substantial risk to the health and safety of the men and women who work inside these prisons and the inmates housed in them."

In court documents, the judges said the state's prison system was at about 200 percent of capacity.

The ruling is the result of two class-action lawsuits on behalf of California prisoners who said medical and mental health care in the state's prisons are so inadequate that they violate the federal constitution's Eighth Amendment ban against cruel and unusual punishment.

The judges said their ruling is tentative so that the parties involved can plan accordingly, essentially giving them an opportunity to work things out themselves before an official ruling is rendered. The court suggests a two- to three-year window for reducing the number of prisoners in the system.

Those who would be released would be very low risk, according to Don Specter, director of the Prison Law Office, a group that provides free legal services to California prisoners. He said the ruling would affect those in jail for three or four months because of parole violations, those getting early release dates, and those who might qualify for early release for taking part in rehabilitation programs.

A final ruling also probably would reduce the number of people entering the prison system, with many being diverted through the courts and into rehabilitation programs instead of going to jail, Specter said.

**Rustyshakelford** · 02-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Diesel

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/10/...ons/index.html

California may have to cut prison population by 40 percent

* Story Highlights
* Overcrowding has created unconstitutional conditions, judges conclude
* Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger immediately promised to appeal the case
* Those who would be released would be very low risk, says head of Prison Law Office

(CNN) -- Federal judges tentatively ruled on Monday that California must reduce the number of inmates in its overcrowded prison system by up to 40 percent to stop a constitutional violation of prisoners' rights.

"Overcrowding is the primary cause of the unconstitutional conditions that have been found to exist in the California prisons," the court concluded.

California state officials, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, immediately promised to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court, if necessary.

"The governor and I strongly disagree with this ruling," said Matthew Cate, California's corrections and rehabilitation secretary. Implementing the court's ruling would result in up to 58,000 prisoners being released, Cate said, describing it as a threat to public safety.

He disputed the court's contention that the prisons are unsafe the way they are now.

But in 2006, Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency because of "severe overcrowding" in California's prisons, saying it had caused "substantial risk to the health and safety of the men and women who work inside these prisons and the inmates housed in them."

In court documents, the judges said the state's prison system was at about 200 percent of capacity.

The ruling is the result of two class-action lawsuits on behalf of California prisoners who said medical and mental health care in the state's prisons are so inadequate that they violate the federal constitution's Eighth Amendment ban against cruel and unusual punishment.

The judges said their ruling is tentative so that the parties involved can plan accordingly, essentially giving them an opportunity to work things out themselves before an official ruling is rendered. The court suggests a two- to three-year window for reducing the number of prisoners in the system.

Those who would be released would be very low risk, according to Don Specter, director of the Prison Law Office, a group that provides free legal services to California prisoners. He said the ruling would affect those in jail for three or four months because of parole violations, those getting early release dates, and those who might qualify for early release for taking part in rehabilitation programs.

A final ruling also probably would reduce the number of people entering the prison system, with many being diverted through the courts and into rehabilitation programs instead of going to jail, Specter said.

They are releasing them in California. Who could tell the difference between the regular populace and the released cons?

**Diesel** · 02-10-2009, 10:12 PM

lol.... shall we start figuring out a way to float cali out into the ocean?

**Rustyshakelford** · 02-10-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Diesel

lol.... shall we start figuring out a way to float cali out into the ocean?

I would miss my Almonds, and pistachios. And Iron Chef America is filmed out there I think.

**Diesel** · 02-10-2009, 10:22 PM

well it's your choice... let me know what u decide LOL

**Visinedrops** · 02-10-2009, 11:01 PM

Here's a solution...how about using one of those newly constructed FEMA camps! Wow, what a novel idea...actually use a prison for housing prisoners.

**Big_Saw** · 02-10-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Visinedrops

Here's a solution...how about using one of those newly constructed FEMA camps! Wow, what a novel idea...actually use a prison for housing prisoners.

How about letting a the low-level drug offenders out (sorry, I don't think smoking pot makes you a bloodthirsty criminal), dumping the non-violent criminals into the political sector, where they belong, and quit f*cking around with the DR inmates....2 guards, two weapons, one crate of ammo, or a rusty frigging knife, for all I care....stop feeding DR inmates for decades, or even weeks.....

**Visinedrops** · 02-10-2009, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Saw

How about letting a the low-level drug offenders out (sorry, I don't think smoking pot makes you a bloodthirsty criminal)

I couldn't agree with you more on this line.

**txcorruptor** · 02-10-2009, 11:27 PM

Be more like Texas and kill one or more a month and over crowding will slow to a stop

**Xolar** · 02-11-2009, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by txcorruptor

Be more like Texas and kill one or more a month and over crowding will slow to a stop

I agree with this thought I don't believe in rehabilitation.

But on another note LETS LIGHTEN UP ON CALIFORNIA not everone here is bad. If were gonna burry it lets think about starting at about sacramento, were the good old boys hank was talking about up here. Heck I live 15 minutes away from Ol Merle himself