water, gas/diesel, and propane storage

**bug_out** · 05-12-2008, 04:56 PM

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**Diesel** · 05-12-2008, 05:35 PM

Diesel Life and storage document
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...age_diesel.pdf

Water should be stored out of the light and if extended storage times are expected a few drops of bleach will help keep down any bacteria

If you have a clean, opaque container where the light cannot get through and your water is bacteria-free when you store it you probably don't need to treat it further. Under these conditions the water actually gets more pure as it is stored. However, for most of us there is no guarantee that our culinary water is bacteria-free and most of us prefer to treat our water in some way as a precaution as we store it. Several methods have traditionally been used to purify water for long term water storage:

1. Two percent Tincture of Iodine -- To use this add 12 drops per gallon of water. Note: pregnant or nursing women or people with thyroid problems should not drink water with iodine.
2. Chlorine Bleach -- Household bleach can also be used. This should contain a 5.25% solution of sodium hypochlorite without soap additives or phosphates. Use 1/8 teaspoon (about 5-8 drops) per gallon of water.

Also keep in mind if you are not using large storage drums etc use 2litre soda bottles.. DO NOT use milk jugs they are porous and leak over time.

**Muckraker69** · 05-24-2008, 08:44 AM

A friend of mine here has like 30 military opaque plastic water containers that look jerry cans and cost $37.00 each! He also has three months of stored food, mostly dry.

Problem is it is openly visible in his garage which is left open most of the time. So his neighbors can easily be aware of what he has and if "push comes to shove", they will probably be coming to take it from him.

How much ammo is enough to protect your family and the supplies you stored to keep them?

And since we'll be probably killing people to to that, are there any good recipes for human meat, since I bet meat will be scarce.

If that offends you, (as the thought of it does me), how do you reconcile everything else on the topic of survival? I mean if things get so bad that your best efforts have left you out of food with your supplies run out, isn't that the next logical step?

Guess I'll have to add Fava Beans and a nice Khianti to my food storage list!

**TheUnboundOne** · 08-07-2008, 05:11 PM

Dear Muckraker69,

I'm with bug_out. If you think "Spot" is the name of a dish instead of a pet, or if you have to eat a significant other in any way not portrayed in porn, that is a sign that you haven't prepared enough.

Besides.if you know how to identify edible plants and animals in the wild, you need never have to resort to such ghoulishness.

Just looking around in my own area of Gaston County, NC, even where it's built up with houses and apartments, you can find things like:

*Pine (the green cones have pine nuts and the needles can be steeped to make a high-Vitamin C tea)
* Yard Plaintain (look like bright green baby spinach leaves)
* Bamboo (the green sections of the bamboo hold water, the shoots can be cooked and eaten like stir-fry, the underground seed pods called rhyzomes can be ground into flour, and the whole plant can make fishing poles, weapons, furniture, etc.)
* Blackberries (the berries are delicious, the leaves can make a tea for diarrhea, and the briars can serve as some security around the perimeter of the compound)
* Wild Plums (good raw or dried into prunes)
* Dandelion (the roots and greens can be cooked to remove bitterness and eaten and the flowers can be soaked and fermented with sugar and yeast to make Dandelion Wine)
* Clover;
* Black Walnuts (the shells also make a brown dye, but keep the tomato plants far away from the tree, as it secrets chemicals that poison it)
* Acorns (boiled for 10 minutes to remove bitter taste, they can be ground to flour)
* Muscadine (the vine grows on trees and the wild grapes ripen around September through October)
* Crabapples (needs sugar, but still great to eat)
and
* Cattails (The roots can be dried and ground to flour, the stalks and leaves can be made into basketry, and the top can make seed for more or stuffing for pillows, etc.)

The local fauna include: rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, 'possums, frogs, turtles (commonly called "cooters,") crayfish, trout, catfish, brim, crappie, carp, birds of all kinds, including seagulls blown over from Hurricane Hugo, deer, and even the occasional black bear.

There's enough food for everybody if you know what to look for, eat no more than you need, and grow more, so love your neighbors and pets: Please don't cook them!

**TheUnboundOne** · 08-07-2008, 05:33 PM

Dear Diesel,

Sorry to get off topic by discussing food. It's easy to get carried away when you haven't had supper yet.

Thanks for the info on diesel storage. I've heard also that there's a product called Sta-Bil which will preserve gasoline in storage for up to 6 months. Also, it's best to store gasoline and other fuel in a shed far from your main home strictly in safety-approved cans or barrels that won't ignite the stuff. Getting approval for underground storage is a costly bi-otch,, and the metal cans buried by Grandparents in WWII tended to rust and leak, so the best most can do about vaporizing is just keep it in a cool, shady area.

**kenno** · 10-12-2008, 06:42 PM

I have a gravity fed, filtered water system but It has often frozen during winter so I also have 6-50 gallon drums and 8-5 gallon containers and a bunch of 1-3 gallon jugs just in case.

**Zombie Axe** · 10-17-2008, 10:37 AM

http://www.priproducts.com/prigproduct.htm

I have used Stabil for years in my Gas, but those in the know seem to prefer PRI-G (gas) and PRI-D (diesel). I still hafta locate a local source for it, but have been lazy, and besides my Stabil is good for 3 more months

Some Obvious bigges. Don't store fuel in your home, garage or anything attached to it. Fire and Gas makes things go bad quickly... Store fuel in a well aired building away from your home or better in a underground fuel tank.

Rotate new in, and rotate old out. Date all cans with treatment and vital info. Store winter gas as it has more stuff in it that makes for better ignition in colder months. Also makes for better storage fuel.

Probably lots more but just a few i can think of for now...